Vietnam Veterans of Australia report problems with 800 help line

Difficulties with Veterans & Veterans Families Counselling Service 1800 Number
Announcement by President Danny
Following inquiries by VV&VFACT with respect to VV&VFACT and Veterans concerns in regard to the Counselling Service, 1800 number, President Danny announced at the BBQ today, that the problem has been recognised by the relevant authorities and is Australian wide.

VV&VFACT has been assured that the problem with the 1800 number will be resolved within six weeks.

As an interim measure, VV&VFACT Office Manager Karen Toscan, has volunteered to be the VV&VFACT Point of Contact (POC) for members or partners who experience problems with the Counselling Service 1800 number.

Karen can be contacted on 0438 123 268, 24/7.

As President Danny stated, do not bottle it, ring, because if you bottle it you take it out on your family or friends.
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Vietnam doctors want veteran status

Vietnam doctors want veteran status
Posted Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:39pm AEST

A group of former doctors and nurses are fighting the Federal Government to be classified as war veterans.

In the 1960s and '70s more than 450 Australian medical staff volunteered to go to Vietnam to treat civilian casualties of war.

They have been fighting ever since for veterans' entitlements.

Former nurse Dot Angell says the civilian surgical team members suffered the same post-war problems as soldiers, but have faced Government discrimination.

"The amount of cancer that is rife amongst the team members, which is not being recognised at all is equal to the cancers in the military personnel which is recognised," she said.

"It just seems this anomaly is a Government disgrace, really."
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Vietnam doctors want veteran status

Australia fake Vietnam "Hero" has no excuse

"I never went to Vietnam and I thought, 'maybe I can say I am a vet because I'm associating with them all the time'. Charles Gibbons said after being caught as a fake Vietnam veteran with medals.

Yes, he really said that. I associate with them all the time too, plus spent the last 25 years married to one of them. I can tell you that just being around them makes people admire them, respect them, value them enough that no one in their right mind would ever consider impersonating one of them. People who do such a despicable act can never come close to understanding them because these men and women, they thought about others when they risked their lives in Vietnam. Didn't matter if they found themselves in Vietnam by will to serve or draft number pulled, they all served side by side and risked their lives for each other.

Thirty years this man pulled off a huge lie, used the Vietnam veterans he "associated with" and managed to look them in the eyes when he was spinning his tall tales of glory and suffering. Now he's sorry? Did he admit it all by himself by a sudden awakening of his conscience? No. He was turned in and then he was sorry. Just like the rest of them they are always sorry when they are caught, offering all kinds of excuses for what they did, trying to be what they will never be and will never understand the kind of person it takes to really be a Vietnam veteran. How about all the veterans this man hurt? How about the real ones trapped because they didn't save their paperwork and frauds like this make is almost impossible to be believed? They just never cared enough about the men and women they pretended to be or they would have never, ever thought about trying to take what they did not earn from them, respect.

Service a lie: Charles Gibbons wore beret and medals he was not entitled to on Anzac Day

Man apologises for posing as war veteran for 30 years

Russell Robinson

August 27, 2009 12:00am


A "WANNABE" war hero apologised to Diggers for fraudulently passing himself off as a Vietnam veteran.

For years council parking inspector Charles Campbell Gibbons, 60, claimed he had completed two tours of duty as a military policeman in South Vietnam.

During that time, he claimed, he'd lost a lung.

He would proudly march on Anzac Day wearing the red beret and badge of the military police.

Pinned to his tunic would be seven medals, signifying Vietnam War service, and 15 years regular army service.

But it was all a lie.

"It was done very stupidly. I should never have done it, but I did it and I regret it," he told the Herald Sun.

"I know there are people out there who do this, and I did it.

"I have no excuse for what I did. If I could go back in time there's not a chance I would have done this.

"I am disgusted with myself."

His double life was exposed on the ANZMI military imposters website.
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25986890-2862,00.html

Message to Australian Veterans and all veterans

Looks like Australia isn't much better at taking care of their veterans than we are. We all remember the statements some of our own elected use when it comes to the VA. Welfare program. A burden. You name it, we heard it.

Direct threat from DVA

Hi,
All Veterans' should oppose this. From National President Tim McCombe, via Blue Ryan, National TPI President.
Regards,
Vic


VIETNAM VETERANS’ FEDERATION

8 Mary Street Granville PO Box 170 GRANVILLE NSW 2142,

Phone (02) 9682 1788 Fax (02) 9682 6134

Incorporating

Vietnam Veterans Peacekeepers and Peacemakers Association NSW Branch

Vietnam Veterans Federation Queensland Branch

Vietnam Veterans Federation ACT Branch

Vietnam Veterans Federation Victorian Branch

Vietnam Veterans Federation South Australian Branch

Vietnam Peacekeepers Peacemakers Federation of Tasmania

Vietnam Veterans, Peacekeepers and Peacemakers Federation of Australia WA Branch



Dear Presidents,

Rewarding Illness?

Some senior officers of the Department of Veterans Affairs and Defence have a new way of looking at those being compensated for war-caused illness and injury; these senior officers say we are being ‘rewarded for illness’.

The promise of this reward, it is suggested, actually ‘causes’ illness or at least causes an exaggeration of it and that receiving compensation ‘causes’ illness to persist.

In other words, they are claiming that veterans are scamming illness or degree of illness so we can stop work and get and keep our hands on compensation.

We have had twenty seven years experience of advising sick and troubled veterans at our Sydney (Granville) headquarters and round Australia. In that time thousands of veterans have come to us for help. It is our overwhelming experience that those who have come to us have done so reluctantly. Often, veterans have been dragged to our office by their worried and wearied wives or have arrived at our doorstep only after dramatically ‘hitting the wall’. Not infrequently, the veteran has ‘hit the wall’ a number of times before seeking our help, each time changing his job and hoping for the best. In most cases the veterans could have and should have stopped work and sought help and compensation years earlier; their strong desire to remain in the workforce preventing them from doing so. This reluctance to cease work has often damaged their health and the health of their families.

The assertion that compensation ‘encourages’ veterans’ illness finds no support in our long experience. Indeed, we suspect the idea springs from the mind of an economic fundamentalist with a primitive view of human motivation and with no practical experience of sick veterans.



‘Compensation’, these fundamentalists believe should be completely replaced by ‘rehabilitation’. Indeed, one very senior Department of Veterans Affairs bureaucrat has told us that almost all disabled war veterans can and should be rehabilitated into paid employment.

This claim shows a dangerous misunderstanding of war-caused disability.

There are some 18,000 Totally and Permanently Incapacitated Vietnam veterans. Of these a high percentage suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is notoriously resistant to treatment.

Our long experience suggests PTSD comes in three categories. A few sufferers will respond to treatment and be cured. At the other extreme, there will be quite a few who are doomed to a nightmare of a life, even institutionalisation, whatever the treatment. The bulk, whilst their condition is not curable, can be treated and counselled to manage their condition more or less successfully.

It is this later group that the Department’s economic fundamentalists think are being kept ‘ill’ by their receipt of the TPI pension. Surely, they argue, there must be some menial, un-stressful, paid jobs for which PTSD sufferers can be trained.

They are mistaken. Paid employment requires predictability. The employer must be able to predict with reasonable accuracy when his employee will turn up for work. As those with practical experience know, PTSD sufferers are unable to provide this predictability; days of feeling able to work and days of almost complete dysfunction, occurring randomly.

Ex-service organizations like ourselves that are manned mainly by volunteer TPI pensioners know that these volunteers, despite their good intentions, may not be able to turn up. We understand that at any time of the day they may simply have to get up and go home. We understand that, at any time, a TPI volunteer may announce that they need a couple of weeks break and that, regardless of their intention, may not be well enough to return at the end of that fortnight. Our office can have no inflexible deadlines and only very flexible expectations. And that’s with TPI pensioners well enough to do some voluntary work. That is the reality. PTSD sufferers as employees are simply not a commercial proposition.

Expecting these disabled veterans to undertake rehabilitation with a view to rejoining the paid workforce would be futile. But worse, it would damage their health. The thought of having to re-shoulder the stress of the workplace including the strong expectation of regularly turning-up would send many into breakdown and some to suicide.

What must be done with most PTSD sufferers is to first remove the horror of actual or impending financial collapse with financial compensation, then offer them voluntary rehabilitation of a different kind; not work-related rehabilitation but the kind of rehabilitation that encourages them to emerge from isolation and despair and participate in society as much as their disability will allow.

We agree with the offending senior bureaucrats that more resources are needed for rehabilitation, but much of those resources should be devoted to disabled war veterans after they are granted compensation. Indeed compensation should be seen, for many, as a vital part of their rehabilitation.

The offending senior departmental officers are wrong about veterans’ motivation and they are dangerously wrong in claiming work-related rehabilitation is a universal solution.

Their preaching should cease.

Yours sincerely,


Tim McCombe

President
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