You heard the rumor, now know the truth on veterans committing suicide

A lie let them choose to die

Wounded Times
Kathie Costos
September 6, 2019

This is the spawn of a lie that has spread throughout the country. 22 Veterans Commit Suicide Every Day - Team Kodiak Challenge

Coast Guard Base Kodiak units gathered together to participate in the Save 22: Veteran Suicide Awareness and Prevention Push Up Challenge, Aug. 29, 2019, in Kodiak, Alaska.

The challenge serves as a reminder that every day, 22 veterans commit suicide, and by participating in this challenge, Base Kodiak hopes to spread the message, create awareness and provide resources to those who are dealing with or are affected by suicide-related issues.

Does anyone really think that pushing your face into the ground will make a veteran think "gee they are doing pushups, so I should stay alive today" instead of thinking about all the other "22" who did it that day?

Watch the video and know this BS is part of the problem. They already know they are killing themselves and they know how to do it. What they do not know is how to heal and spread that message out the way these stunts spread death.

Spread the message about what? "What's the problem? It's just a number!" That is what people use to respond when confronted with the truth. The problem is, that "number" is supposed to represent the number of veterans who end up taking their own lives because their "problem" is not even worth knowing what the actual truth is.

A reminder of a lie? It is not now, nor ever has been 22 a day. It had been 22 the VA was aware of at the time, but even they warned the "number" should not be considered a fact. The VA only had limited data from just 21 states. Aside from the states that were not included, they did not have data from anyone who did not have an honorable discharge. Why? Because they are not counted as "veteran" even if they were part of the over 3 million kicked out of the service because of what their service did to them.

So, the Coast Guard is doing pushups and repeating the "number" one reason more veterans at taking their own lives than before.

And yet, with all the "awareness" that suicides are happening, they seem to have learned nothing from them. The suicide of Petty Officer 1st Class Jose Christopher Trujillo-Daza is a reflection of what all the stunts produced.

Yet in spite of the mandated suicide prevention training and the promotion of CG SUPRT, Wright-Williams acknowledges there may be some people, like Trujillo-Daza, who may not be reached by—or reach out to—those services.

The last drill weekend she saw Petty Officer 1st Class Jose Christopher Trujillo-Daza alive, Petty Officer 2nd Class Natalie Crane ate lunch with her coxswain and section leader.

“He was sitting on the boat, and we were eating, and he said, ‘This right here, being on a boat with buddies? This makes it all worth it,’” Crane remembered.

A week later, Trujillo-Daza was dead, a victim of suicide. Crane and her fellow reservists at Port Security Unit 313 in Everett, Wash., were stunned. What had happened in the intervening days? What else could they have done to prevent it?

In the past five years, 10 Coast Guard reservists have died by suicide, an average of two a year. That percentage is lower than that of other military branches and on par with the civilian suicide rate. It’s also small enough that statisticians and health professionals have difficulty pinpointing patterns that would provide Trujillo-Daza’s shipmates reliable answers or contexts.

All the things civilians are capable of, these men and women, like the members of the military, also commit murder-suicide with their own families. 

The difference is these men and women dedicated their lives to doing whatever they could to save lives...not take them.

Oh, sorry I failed to mention that the members of the Coast Guard are not counted within the military numbers, or veteran numbers.

Then again, people can spin anything. That was made clear by the recent report of US military members having less "mental disorders" than the general public.

Diagnoses for mental health conditions among active-duty U.S. military personnel have remained steady over the last four years, with 8.3% of the total force diagnosed in 2018, compared with 8% in 2014, according to a new study from the Defense Department.

The study looked at the number of diagnoses for eight mental health conditions, including adjustment disorder, alcohol dependence, anxiety, bipolar disorder, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, psychosis and substance abuse, and found that the most common mental health diagnoses in troops were adjustment disorder, anxiety and depression.

That does not mean there are actually less with things like PTSD. It means there are less getting diagnosed and treated than the general public. When you factor in that all branches of the military have reached the highest level of suicides, that study should be sounding alarms all over the country.

No one is tracking the number of veterans facing off with members of law enforcement, but in 2017 we found it happened at least once a week all over the country.


Police officers commit suicide while serving, also as retirees. So do firefighters, other first responders and even Marshals.

The air marshal union letter to the OSC notes that just over a year earlier, TSA Administrator David Pekoske received an email from union officials "dated June 9, 2018 entitled ‘Concerned FAMS,’ where he was warned that unless immediate action was taken more tragedies would occur," but failed to react. “Since that warning the agency has seen 4 suicides, a murder suicide, and its first on duty death,” the letter grimly notes. The letter is dated July 22, the same day last month that a Washington D.C.-based supervisory air marshal named William Sondervan, 46, was found dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound.

It happens because veterans like Everett Glenn Miller , did not receive the help they needed in the military during his over 20 year career, or afterwards.

"This was truly the perfect storm," Mills told jurors. "He was homeless, he didn't have a job, he was heartbroken. ... He was admonished for being a walk-in at the VA three days before this crime was committed."

Joe Biden is being questioned for being partly right, but the fact that more commit suicide than die in battle has been going on for decades, as far as the reports go back to, but again, no one knows the whole truth on any of this. Why? Because it is easier to just talk about something happening than it is to actually do something about it.

Biden’s claim that more Iraq/Afghanistan veterans have committed suicide than were killed in action
The Washington Post
By Glenn Kessler
September 5, 2019

“More suicides per month in the U.S. military, returning vets, than people killed in action, by a long shot.”
— Former vice president Joe Biden, at a town hall event at Dartmouth College, Hanover, N.H., Aug. 23, 2019

The Washington Post recently detailed how the former vice president told a moving but false story about an incident in Afghanistan. While watching a clip of the lengthy monologue that led to this tale, we were struck by his claim that there are more suicides per month of returning veterans than those killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan — “by a long shot.”

This seemed an interesting subject for a fact check, though it turned out the data is sketchy and not especially clear. There’s also an added wrinkle — what did Biden, who is not especially precise in his phrasing, mean with his comment?

The Facts
When we first watched this clip, we assumed that Biden was comparing the number of military personnel killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan over the course of the two wars — about nearly 5,400 — with the number of veterans of those conflicts who have taken their own lives.

Before he made this statement, Biden said: “Every year for the last 13 years I have wanted to know I call every morning to the Defense Department, not a joke, to learn exactly how many women and men have been killed in Afghanistan or Iraq. Every single one of them is a fallen angel left behind an entire community. … It’s 6,883, as of this morning.” (There are different ways to crunch the numbers, but it’s about 7,000.)

Biden continued: “Know how many are coming back with post-traumatic stress? 300,000. 300,000 estimated.” (He appears to be referring to a 2008 Rand Corp. study that said 20 percent of military service members, or 300,000 at the time, report symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder — PTSD — or major depression.)
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“If we do not focus on [suicide prevention]…we will be doing a disservice to those Veterans we care for, and a disservice to the memories of those millions who have come before.The most definitive answer that we can give to our fellow Americans and to our Veterans, is that this is a task that we will all conquer together."VA Secretary Robert Wilkie